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• Hermes Engraver Instructions
• New Hermes Engraver For Sale
• New Hermes Vanguard 7000 Engraver Manual

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Have not decided what I want to do with this. I plugged it in - and it homed - then smoked;) (not a big deal - fixable but I would rather use emc2 to control it.) I hooked a parker microstepping drive up to one of the axis's and ran it thru emc2. Worked great and zipped it around at 120ipm with no issues. I used 1000steps per rev and the lead screw was 4 thread per inch which gives.00025. They are only 1.5a 5v 6wire steppers - I hooked up just one of each coil running bipolar. I just got a Vanguard 7000 with the same problem. Looking for info on the command set.

It seems to use either serial or parrallel so I'm guessing it may be something like HPGL. If you hear anything please let me know and I'll do the same. Tom Hey Tom, I am new here also and I see no one answered your request for help on new hermes 7000as of today. I also just bought a 7000 to do some watch engraving. Have you figured out how to get your machine working. I bought the program Open Sys from gravograph but it is a dos program and there is no way to use it without training. The training from them is outragous and time to enroll is min 4 months.

I think their motive is selling the new $5000program or a new machine Beats me. I would just get some stepping drives and run it with emc or mach. The new gecko 4 axis 3.5a drives would be a great match.

That would allow you to use real cad/cam software to develope your parts. I sold mine on ebay a few months back. (I am in greater need of a garage);) sam This was using emc2 YouTube - EMC2 running Hermes engraver making PCB YouTube - EMC2 running hermes 450ipm 50in/s/s doublefreq YouTube - emc2 dry run of the 3dchips test program (linuxcnc penguin). Thanks for even replying to me. This forum is so large I am a bit overwhelmed just by the site, Not to mention that I know nothing about these machines.

I am a retired Autobody Shop owner and somewhat Ill. This machine is to complement my hobby (Watches) I want to engrave on new dials. My machine will run on new style software and the machine was working fine when bid on by the guy I bought it from. Graveograph sells a program that runs this baby right away, but it is $5000.00 I will sell the machine before paying that much to see it chip away.

It will take the code through a parallel cable. I don't think I can wire in new stepper motors unless I saw someone else doing it.

This animal is really not anything I have even touched before. This is why I was looking for a friendly person with a Vanguard 7000EP that is working and on what software.

I know this machine will work when set up right. At the auction where it came from a couple of finefellows lifted the computer with software and this is the problem. No guys in sight now!! Thanks for your suggestion and help, Phil. I have done some reading on these machines.

They will should run using the HPGL drivers, just like a printer doing graphics. You should be able to just load the windows drivers for HPGL and go. I have an older machine the 3400 but the EP controller had problems. (the motherboard CMOS battery had corroded and damaged the motherboard) I tossed it and rewired the motor driver board directly to the printer port. Now I run the machine directly from my computer using MACH3.

I just finished figuring out the limitswitches last night and got them configured also so I can do homing. If anyone needs the schematic I built for doing this rewiring let me know and I can email it to you. Hello, I have a New Hermes Vanguard 8000 that I have recently come into ownership on.

It has a seperate computer for control, but it is non functional. Can anyone point me to a source for information about this router.

I have an electrical engineering background and would like to take on the project of upgrading this equipment. The mechanical side of the machine looks to be in fairly good condition. Are there any websites out there that may have schematics or some type of information about the interface to the machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stan. Hey Stan, I have just bought a Vanguard 7000 EP. It had no computer or software at all because someone lifted it after the auction.

I got the DOS program from Gravograph $125.00 but it is junk unless you are trained on it. I could not get anything out of the machine until I loaded a HPGL 2plotter driver from windows and it now will turn the bit drive and come forward to the limit switch and stop.Then the panel on the front reads 'unknown code'.

Do you have the computer that goes with your machine as was it suppose to work? If you just want to rewire the machine anyway there are tons of guys here to help.

I think some of them break things so they can fix them again. Just kidding. I sent a you a crappy pic of the panel on mine. I'll be interested in what you do. I'm leaning towards a Cambell Designs breakout board, and MACH3 software.

There is a knob on the front of my unit for speed control. It seems to work just fine. I'm thinking that I will just add the breakout box and tap into the DB25 connector to run the X, Y, and Z. I'm going to try to get it running so I can cut phenalic tags for my electrical panel shop first. I'll try to post some pictures of my unit later.

If anyone has it available I would really appreciate a pinout diagram of the DB-25 connector on the rear of the machine. Thanks, Stan.

Stan, If you open up the machine and see what kind of controller boards you have you could be in luck if they are similar to the older ones. On mine I it consisted of a separate computer (an old dos machine) that ran the engraving software, it sends HPGL commands to the controller box (EP controller). The EP controller box consisted of a standalone motherboard (PC style) with a plugin motion controller board that recieves the HPGL commands from the computer over a parallel port. This motion controller then connects to a motor driver board through a 20pin ribbon cable.

The motor driver board is a standalone board, not plugged into the motherboard. There is also a power supply board. Older computers were so slow they could not calculate motion control commands and output a motor control pulse stream while taking care of other tasks like video all at the same time so they had to pass off movement commands to a separate controller that was dedicated to coordinating motion among the axis. Today with faster computers, that is not a problem, they are fast enough to do all these tasks. On my machine (3400) the motherboard in the EP controller was toast. I tossed the mother board and the daughter board (motion controller). Take a look at your system internals and determine if this is the same or similar to what you have.

If so I was able to trace the circuit out on the motor driver board, build a schematic, then rewire the 20pin ribbon cable connection to hook the motor driver directly to my parallel port on a newer faster XP machine. Now I am running Mach3 software on an 800mhz computer outputting on the parallel port connected to the engraver motor driver board, engraving & 3D machining (with other software). I can share what I have done, it is in Eagle's schematic format. I am considering offering a premade parallel breakout board with the appropriate connectors, pullups & current limiting resistors prewired. Hi Arnie, I have been tring to figure out how to get this Vanguard 7000 to respond.

The last post you made to help Stan sounds like the same inner workings of my machine. It is a DOS base program that runs it and I have a HPGL printer driver on com1 but it still doesn't do the right moves. I know the machine is mechanically okay, it moves in all directions and the cutter motor runs. I ran a toolpath from cut2 directly to machine as per Tony's idea and oddly enough the panel read something like too much information and made a remark obout 256K. So I think the only way to get this thing to really cut with todays speed programs is to do what you did.

I don't want to use the DOS program I have even if it worked okay. I will try to upload a couple of pics of my machine and if you are interested in talking about a prewired board and you are sure it will work, we can talk price. I can take some other pics with the control panel out, it is only one screw. The pic of the panel doesn't show the small joy stick to the right just a hair. My regular e-mail is philandpatty@cox.net if you don't mine sending your schematic I may be able to see if it looks like what you have.

Hermes Engraver Instructions

I am really wanting to make this thing turn-up but it is all a new toy to me. Just an update on the progress on a Vanguard engraver. I am working on Phil's machine and have examined the control boards.

New Hermes Engraver For Sale

I am in the process of making a schematic and determining how to rewire it so he can run it under control of Mach3 or other machine controller softwares. It is going pretty good, I am close to starting the wiring changes now. The stepper motor driver board on this mdl 7000 is a simple 3 axis controller using the special purpose chips L297 & L298. It is normally controlled by the onboard computer using a special motion controller card.

I will be rewiring it bypassing the motion controller card & onboard computer, going directly from the parallel port to the stepper motor driver board. I will post again with the results of my testing in a week or so. Just an update on the progress on a Vanguard engraver. I am working on Phil's machine and have examined the control boards. I am in the process of making a schematic and determining how to rewire it so he can run it under control of Mach3 or other machine controller softwares. It is going pretty good, I am close to starting the wiring changes now.

The stepper motor driver board on this mdl 7000 is a simple 3 axis controller using the special purpose chips L297 & L298. It is normally controlled by the onboard computer using a special motion controller card. I will be rewiring it bypassing the motion controller card & onboard computer, going directly from the parallel port to the stepper motor driver board.

I will post again with the results of my testing in a week or so. Arnie Arnie, I have a Vanguard 8000, everything works but I can only do lettering.

I would like to connect this machine to an XP running Mach3 but need a schematic to make a cable. Is the 7000 similar or would you recommend changing to a seperate controller. I have a mechtronics 3 axis board that I can use but wanted to retain the old functionality.

Suggestions welcomed Rich Longfellow. I would just get some stepping drives and run it with emc or mach. The new gecko 4 axis 3.5a drives would be a great match.

That would allow you to use real cad/cam software to develope your parts. I sold mine on ebay a few months back. (I am in greater need of a garage);) sam This was using emc2 YouTube - EMC2 running Hermes engraver making PCB (YouTube - EMC2 running hermes 450ipm 50in/s/s doublefreq (YouTube - emc2 dry run of the 3dchips test program (linuxcnc penguin) (Hey everyone, I just acquired a Vanguard 5000 machine and am tinkering with getting it running. I know nothing about the machine itself, besides what I have read here about similar machines. It has a type of DOS based box that seems to be the motor control, but I really don't know too much more about it.

I would like to do small machining and nameplates with it, but have to play with it first. ANY input is greatly appreciated.

New Hermes Vanguard 7000 Engraver Manual

Hi guys, In my case I bought a NH1219 and the owner had junked the computer and all the electronics because it had stopped working and he could not find anyone who could look at it. I traced the wiring for the DB25 connector, and connected it to a Rockcliff board (and added a 24 v power supply. I have engraved a few signs with it but it is awkward and clumsy, not because of the new electronics, but because I have very little experience and the manuals are software manuals, not machine manuals. I have about 25 cutters, some dull, many meant for huge letters. To try and find one size that can cut the fine letters yet still be useful on larger (1/2) letters is difficult.

Setting zero is also difficult to get consistent results. Using Mach 3 to control drives and several evals of software to create the g-code, which often has to be tweaked by hand. Helo arnie I'm begining to feel like a nusance but I found this message still on the forum and am wondering if you actually did what your last sentencd says? If you did could you please tell me what else would be required to make the machine operable again? Sandy Stan, If you open up the machine and see what kind of controller boards you have you could be in luck if they are similar to the older ones. On mine I it consisted of a separate computer (an old dos machine) that ran the engraving software, it sends HPGL commands to the controller box (EP controller). The EP controller box consisted of a standalone motherboard (PC style) with a plugin motion controller board that recieves the HPGL commands from the computer over a parallel port.

This motion controller then connects to a motor driver board through a 20pin ribbon cable. The motor driver board is a standalone board, not plugged into the motherboard. There is also a power supply board. Older computers were so slow they could not calculate motion control commands and output a motor control pulse stream while taking care of other tasks like video all at the same time so they had to pass off movement commands to a separate controller that was dedicated to coordinating motion among the axis. Today with faster computers, that is not a problem, they are fast enough to do all these tasks.

On my machine (3400) the motherboard in the EP controller was toast. I tossed the mother board and the daughter board (motion controller). Take a look at your system internals and determine if this is the same or similar to what you have.

If so I was able to trace the circuit out on the motor driver board, build a schematic, then rewire the 20pin ribbon cable connection to hook the motor driver directly to my parallel port on a newer faster XP machine. Now I am running Mach3 software on an 800mhz computer outputting on the parallel port connected to the engraver motor driver board, engraving & 3D machining (with other software).

I can share what I have done, it is in Eagle's schematic format. I am considering offering a premade parallel breakout board with the appropriate connectors, pullups & current limiting resistors prewired.